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Posted on: October 1, 2008 7:53 pm
Edited on: October 1, 2008 8:29 pm
 

Conference Rankings: Round 3





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Alright so we all know the debate about the strengths of the Division 1 conferences, everybody thinks their conference is #1 or #2.

So LAwish (West Coast) and I (East Coast) decided to put the question to bed...

This is round 3 now and this time I did most of the work on my own, however I did get some help for two of the conferences

carolina8800 (Big East)
cubansajoke (Big 12)

Alright so we went through the 6 major conferences, and for the heck of it, threw in the top 2 mid-major conferences: the WAC, and the Mountain West Conference. We put each team in one of these 5 categories.

                                      (you may want to skip down to the conference rankings if you don't care how it was done

5 Categories:
Big Boys- which I defined as National Title Contenders and teams that will not fall out of the top 10

Solid teams- which are teams that will likely not drop out of the rankings

Decent teams- which are teams that could get into the rankings at the back end or stay just outside the rankings

Bad teams- teams that likely aren't thinking about the rankings but may get to 6 wins to be bowl eligible

JV- teams that aren't thinking bowl game at all, 3 wins would be great

We each did our lists individually so that we didn't influence each other.

When we did our lists I realized that we would disagree about some teams so for scoring purposes 4 sub-categories were composed.

Sub-Categories:
Studs- teams that fall between Big boy's and solid teams

Good teams- teams that fall between Solid and Average teams

Mediocre teams- teams that fall between average and bad

Garbage- teams that fall between bad and JV

There are now 3 tiers in most of the categories to clear things up in the tiers where there were a lot of teams, since they aren't all equal.
 
Here is how the teams came out:

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Team Rankings:
Big Boys: Missouri, Oklahoma, LSU, Alabama

Studs: Tier 1: Penn. St., USF, BYU,Texas Tier 2: Georgia

Solid: Tier 1: USC (west), Florida Tier 2: Auburn, UConn Tier 3: Wake Forest, Virginia Tech, Wisconsin, Ohio St., Kansas, Utah, TCU, Texas Tech, Vanderbilt

Good: Tier 1: Boise St. Tier 2: Fresno St., Illinois, Oregon

Decent: Tier 1: Clemson, Maryland, Florida St., Michigan St., Oklahoma St., Kentucky Tier 2: Arizona St., Cal, Ole Miss Tier 3: North Carolina, Georgia Tech, Minnesota, Michigan, Nebraska, West Virginia, Oregon St.

Mediocre: Tier 1: Miami Tier 2: Purdue, Colorado, USC (east), Nevada Tier 3: Northwestern , Arizona, Air Force, UNLV

Bad: Tier 1: Louisville, Tennessee, Baylor Tier 2: Boston College Tier 3: Iowa, NC State, Duke, Pitt, Cincinnati, New Mexico St., San Jose St., Kansas St., Stanford, Mississippi St., New Mexico

Garbage: Tier 1: Texas A&M, UCLA Tier 2: Indiana, Louisiana Tech

JV: Tier 1: Iowa St., Rutgers, Colorado St. Tier 2: Wyoming, San Diego St., Washington, Washington St., Arkansas Tier 3: Virginia, Syracuse, Hawaii, Idaho, Utah St.

I graded the teams on a 5 points scale with Big Boys getting 5. The seperate tiers in each category received different amounts of points as well. Studs received 4.5 - 4.9 points, solid teams received 4 - 4.49 points and so on, down the line
Here's how the conferences came out:

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Conference rankings
1. SEC          3.4925  (up)
2. Big 12       3.25      (up)
3. Big Ten    3.1063  (up)
4. ACC          2.835    (up)
5. MWC         2.611    (no change)
6. Pac 10      2.6         (up)
7. Big East   2.5         (no change)
8. WAC         1.982    (down)

(Previous)
1. SEC           3.30916 
2. Big 12         3.1133  
3. Big 10         2.9090  
4. ACC            2.77     
5. MWC          2.611    
6. Big East      2.5       
7. Pac 10        2.4       
8. WAC          2           


So the top 5 stay the same, but the Pac 10 has jumped ahead of the Big East

Hopefully next week I get at least one other opinion on each conference, to balance some things out.

Comments people?
Posted on: September 24, 2008 6:46 pm
 

Ranking the NCAAF Conferences: Part 2

Alright so we all know the debate about the strengths of the Division 1 conferences, everybody thinks their conference is #1 or #2.

So LAwish (West Coast) and I (East Coast) decided to put the question to bed...

but, there was a problem and a pretty obvious one. Since we're both coastal, and focus on certain confernces we lack some knowledge about the middle of the country. So this time around I hired some "experts" to help us out with thier respective conferences.

wizardKing (Big 10)
carolina8800 (Big East)
mmaggettepack (ACC)
cubansajoke (Big 12)

If you have a problem with the way the teams in these conferences are ranked, take it up with them first, lol

Alright so we went through the 6 major conferences, and for the heck of it, threw in the top 2 mid-major conferences: the WAC, and the Mountain West Conference. We put each team in one of these 5 categories.

                                      (you may want to skip down to the conference rankings if you don't care how it was done)

5 Categories:

Big Boys- which I defined as National Title Contenders and teams that will not fall out of the top 10

Solid teams- which are teams that will likely not drop out of the rankings

Decent teams- which are teams that could get into the rankings at the back end or stay just outside the rankings

Bad teams- teams that likely aren't thinking about the rankings but may get to 6 wins to be bowl eligible

JV- teams that aren't thinking bowl game at all, 3 wins would be great

We each did our lists individually so that we didn't influence each other.

When we did our lists I realized that we would disagree about some teams so for scoring purposes 4 sub-categories were composed.

Sub-Categories:

Studs- teams that fall between Big boy's and solid teams

Good teams- teams that fall between Solid and Average teams

Mediocre teams- teams that fall between average and bad

Garbage- teams that fall between bad and JV

Now, this time around with more participants, teams would also fall between the sub-categories but so as not to create too many categories I'll have 2-3 tiers in each category below.
Here is how the teams came out:

Team Rankings:

Big Boys: USC (west), Missouri, Oklahoma, Florida, Georgia, LSU

Studs: Tier 1: Texas Tier 2: BYU

Solid: Tier 1: Auburn, Alabama Tier 2: Wake Forest, USF, Wisconsin, Penn St. Tier 3: Clemson, Virginia tech, Kansas, Utah, TCU

Good: Tier 1: Ohio St. Tier 2: Texas Tech, Vanderbilt Tier 3: UConn, Fresno St., Boise St., Illinois

Decent: Tier 1: Georgia Tech, Michigan St. Tier 2: Maryland, Oregon, Arizona St., Cal, Purdue, Colorado, UNLV

Mediocre: Tier 1: Florida St., North Carolina, Miami, Louisville, West Virginia Tier 2: Oklahoma St., Nebraska, Kentucky Tier 3: Cincinnati, Arizona, Nevada, Minnesotta, Northwestern, Air Force

Bad: Tier 1: USC (east), Ole Miss, Baylor Tier 2: Boston College, Iowa Tier 3: NC State, Pitt, Oregon St., UCLA, New Mexico St., San Jose St., Kansas St., Tennessee

Garbage:
Tier 1: Miss. St. Tier 2: Stanford, Louisiana Tech, Indiana, Wyoming, Colorado St., New Mexico

JV: Tier 1: Arkansas, Texas A&M Tier 2: Virginia, Rutgers, Michigan Tier 3: Duke, Syracuse, Washington, Washington St., Hawaii, Idaho, Utah St., Iowa St., San Diego St.

I graded the teams on a 5 points scale with Big Boys getting 5. The seperate tiers in each category recieved different amounts of points as well. Studs recieved 4.5 - 4.9 points, solid teams recieved 4 - 4.49 points and so on, down the line
Here's how the conferences came out:

Conference rankings

1. SEC           3.30916  (down)
2. Big 12         3.1133   (up)
3. Big 10         2.9090   (no change)
4. ACC            2.77      (up)
5. MWC          2.611     (down)
6. Big East      2.5        (down)
7. Pac 10        2.4        (down)
8. WAC          2            (down)

(Previous)
1. SEC      3.4583333
2. Pac-10   3
3. Big 12    2.9166667
4. Big 10    2.9090909
5. Big East 2.8125
6. ACC       2.6666667
   MWC      2.6666667
8. WAC      2.3333333
9. C-USA    2.25

So the SEC is still the top league, just ahead of the Big 12, then the Big 10, meanwhile the Pac 10 has slipped from 2nd to 7th. Wow

Comments people?
Posted on: September 16, 2008 3:10 pm
Edited on: September 16, 2008 6:56 pm
 

College Conferenes: Who's #1?

Alright so we all know the debate about the strengths of the Division 1 conferences, everybody thinks their conference is #1 or #2, (except the Pac 10 and SEC people who all think they're #1.

So LAwish (West Coast) and I (East Coast) decided to put the question to bed.

I'm going to break this down similar to the way I broke my NCAA tournament formula down (which I remind you picked the eventual Champion, several upsets, and  near upsets, and 3 of the final 4 check it out)

Alright so LA and I went through the 6 major conferences, and for the heck of it, threw in the top 3 mid-major conferences, the WAC, C-USA, and the Mountain West Conference. We put each team in one of these 5 categories.

                                      (you may want to skip down to the conference rankings if you don't care how it was done)

5 Categories:

 

Big Boys- which I defined as National Title Contenders and teams that will not fall out of the top 10

Solid teams- which are teams that will likely not drop out of the rankings

Average teams
- which are teams that could get into the rankings at the back end or stay just outside the rankings

Bad teams- teams that likely aren't thinking about the rankings but may get to 6 wins to be bowl eligible

JV- teams that aren't thinking bowl game at all, 3 wins would be great

We each did our lists seperately so that we didn't influence each other.

When we did our lists I realized that we would disagree about some teams so for scoring purposes 4 sub-categories were composed.

Sub-Categories:

Studs- teams that fall between Big boy's and solid teams

Good teams
- teams that fall between Solid and Average teams

Mediocre teams- teams that fall between average and bad

Garbage- teams that fall between bad and JV

Here is how the teams came out:

Team Rankings:

Big Boys : USC (west), Missouri, Oklahoma, Florida, Georgia

Studs: LSU, Texas, Oregon, BYU, Utah, TCU, Wisconsin, Penn St., Virginia Tech, Fresno St., USF, West Virginia, East Carolina

Solid: Kansas, Arizona St., Illinois, Ohio St., Clemson, Wake Forest, Boise St.

Good: Auburn, Alabama, Texas Tech, Cal, Oregon St., Nevada

Average: USC (east), Vanderbilt, Tennessee, Purdue, Michigan St., North Carolina, Florida St., UCF, Tulsa Tulane, Rutgers

Mediocre: Oklahoma St., Arizona, Kentucky, Texas A&M, UCLA, UNLV, New Mexico, Michigan, Maryland, Georgia Tech, Boston College, San Jose St, Southern Miss, Rice, UConn, Pitt, Cincinnati

Bad: Ole Miss, Kansas St., Colorado, Nebraska, Stanford, San Diego St., Northwestern, Miami, Houston, Marshall, Louisville

Garbage: Washington, Arkansas, Miss. St., Air Force, Minnesota, Indiana, Iowa, Duke, Virginia, Louisiana Tech, Hawaii, New Mexico St., SMU

JV: Washington St, Iowa St., Baylor, Wyoming, Colorado St., N.C. State, Idaho, Utah St.,UTEP, Memphis UAB, Syracuse

Now we differed on how to score the conferences because LA, realizing some of his conferences were top top heavy wanted to give more weight to the top teams, so I went with 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 syestem, while LA went with a 10, 7, 4, 2, 1 system (with teams in the sub-categories getting the average of the two they're between)

Here's how that shook down

Bib and LA's Conference rankings


Mine
1. SEC      3.4583333
2. Pac-10   3
3. Big 12    2.9166667
4. Big 10    2.9090909
5. Big East 2.8125
6. ACC       2.6666667
   MWC      2.6666667
8. WAC      2.3333333
9. C-USA    2.25

LA's
1. SEC       4.9583333
2. Pac-10   4.7
3. Big 12    4.5833333
4. Big 10    4.4090909
5. Big East 4.125
6. MWC     4.1111111
7. WAC     3.89999999
8. ACC      3.79166667
9. C-USA   2.91666667

So the SEC clearly the top league, followed by the Pac-10, Big 12, and Big 10

after that it get's muddy

Comments people?
 
 
 
 
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